Kerri: Welcome back to Midday and my
special guest today is Julian Lennon. Welcome again, Julian.
*The audience screams and claps. Julian giggles and
puts his hand over his face all shy*
Kerri: Julian as we went to break, our illustrious
band leader and the boys, Geoff Harvey.
*cut to Geoff Harvey (who is off to the left side of the stage, over
in the band area)*
Geoff: Can I just ask you. if your father left when
you were four. where did you get your musical training.
Jules: Ah. by listening to music.
I play purely by ear. I had one piano lesson when I was about Eleven.
Geoff: Same with me.
Jules: .and I hit the wrong note
and got whacked on the hand with a ruler. and I said this is no
way to learn music! so I taught myself.
Geoff: I wonder what would have happened if you'd
been living, quite seriously, with your father.
Jules: Um. no idea. obviously there
were occasions on the few times I did see him.. where he sat down
and taught me a couple of chords. y'know the basics. but that was
about it really.
Geoff: Anyway welcome.It's lovely to have you. Sorry
Jules: Thank you very much.
Kerri: I was fascinated Geoff, I loved that. And,
I was going to say. you (the band) played 'Hey Jude' to the break.which
was written thirty one years ago for you (Julian). is that still a
very personal song for you?.
Jules: Well it is, in the sense
that you gotta figure that Paul being one of dad's best friends.
at the time looking at his best friend's marriage breaking up, with
a kid in the middle of it. and y'know figuring out how, this kid
is going to survive. with what's going on. I mean that's very special.
having a song written about anyone is very special. under the circumstances
it was more than special. it affects me more listening to it these
days, than back then.. because I do feel like a survivor.
Kerri: What's your favorite line from it?
Jules: Um, *Laughs* I don't know.
Kerri: But it is very special.
Kerri: Um you're not a father yet I understand.
Kerri: But if and when you do have children.. what
sort of characters do you think will be most important to instill
in your child.?
Jules: Ouch! Um.. well honesty.
truth. basically I think those have to be the first and foremost
on the agenda. respect of course that's another one. I think those
are three of the most important things. I mean there's probably
others too.. but off the top of my head.
Kerri: Do you look.
Jules: and LOVE of course *smiles*
Kerri: Do you look forward to that time.?
Jules: I do! Very much look forward
to that time. I mean I was involved in a relationship several years
ago. and there was a child involved from the other relationship..
y'know I played father for a couple of months. and I enjoyed the
experience more than most things in life. I truly did. (in the most
sincerest voice) that's why it truly upsets me to hear that any
parent would leave a kid stranded, one way or the other. it shocks
Kerri: Let's go back to 1984, you had terrific success.
with 'Too Late For Goodbyes' (shows a snippet of the video clip).
but then you disappeared for seven years. How disillusioned where
Jules: Well no.. what happened
was. I had a great deal of support with the first album.. and uh.
after doing the first tour I did, I was hoping to come off the tour
and relax a little bit and start writing for the next album. unfortunately
with the kind of people I was working with .. it was not. they didn't
have a vested interest in the artistic and musical side.. and the
creative side of what I was doing. and they didn't care. so basically
coz I was contractually obligated I had to literally -after the
tour- go straight into the studio again, and write the songs in
the studio.. and that's not the way it worked before. and it was
a very very pressured situation. due to that fact I didn't feel
that I came up with any reasonable work. there was a couple of songs
on a couple of albums.. y'know like 'Saltwater' and several others..
but I never felt I had a whole album that I was completely satisfied
with.that was ALL of me -so to speak- coz there was a lot of influence
from the people.. the labels.. the people in the major labels, even
producers to a certain degree. so I just had enough.. after the
broken promises. and lack of support I said 'That's it! I'm out
Kerri: Did you get ripped off?
Jules: Yes, absolutely! Absolutely.
Kerri: But one would imagine Julian, that you would
have access to the best advice. how does someone in your position
get ripped off.
Jules: Well. Yeah, but I wasn't
was I? I wasn't around the business when I was growing up. And it
seems everybody under the sun -even till this day- still get ripped
off right, left and center.. y'know there's always something hidden
somewhere. I always say 'Look at the small print!', you have to
y'know. I uh.. got out of the contracts.. and started writing for
me.. coz I consider it an artform.. I put a collection of songs
together. and went in to record over two albums worth. and started
an independent company.. and uh put the cover together.. designed
the cover. put the packaging. the videos..
Kerri: So you really controlled the entire project.
Jules: Absolutely. I mean, this
is where the balancing comes into play now.. It's because I have
found a balance . Music, the industry before was 100% of my time.
now music is very important.. has it's place.. but there are other
things in life that are just as important, if not more important,
you know so.. but it's ah.. it's a different set up.. finally being
in control. of my life not only on a personal level but a professional
level.. is exhilarating.. and freeing and wonderful!..
Kerri: What about Sean.. I know he's produced an
Kerri: Do you think with Sean, and Yoko's ambition.
Kerri: and her money, will he be a success?
Jules: I think as with me.. people have watched
me over the years. I think at the end of the day, the only thing
that really counts is. is he a good song writer? Has he got talent?
I think he has.
Kerri: You don't think she -Yoko Ono- could manufacture
Jules: No I don't think she could
manufacture it because I've, you know. during this whole promo tour..
which has started since Spring this year.. I've watched how she
has manipulated the situation.
Jules: Well there was circumstances
where, for a fact I know.. there was written letters to the head
of certain magazines that I was going to be featured in, that Sean
should be seen as the son that shines.. and Jules should not be.
I mean this is factual stuff that I have.. y'know.. Just things
Kerri: What sort of person is she?
Jules: Well obviously, she does
want Sean to be the succeeding son, y'know. which is so childish
and so. and the approach I find ridiculous.. and the insecurity
level. I mean she's got EVERYTHING what more does she want.. and
obviously she wants Sean to. it's only gonna hurt Sean in the long
run.. which is what annoys me more than anything. He's stuck.. he's
being used as the pawn in this.
Kerri: Has she ever given you anything personal
Jules: Um.. there might have been
some things in the past, one or two little things. there was one
guitar that I was after -that I thought was beautiful.. but she
said obviously 'There's two of you now I can't split it in half'
and that was that, y'know..
Kerri: You did battle with her at one stage for
part of John's estate.
Kerri: She sounds like a very awesome woman to take
Jules: Well, I don't know about
that. you know she can afford the best lawyers in the world.. and
of course if you're gonna challenge that situation, y'know especially
in a court in America, you're stuck in court for years and years
and years.. ten years if not more.. and I certainly can't fund that!
Y'know.. who knows at the end of the day, what the judge's decision
would have been. so the only option I had was to settle and do the
best deal I could..
Kerri: And you shared that with your mother.
Jules: Yeah, Absolutely. I make
sure that she's absolutely okay, and fine and happy.
Kerri: What did you buy your mum?
Jules: First and foremost, I bought
her a house. Secondly a car. and it was her birthday recently and
the only I could think which would give her total freedom was to
go anywhere wherever she wanted, with whom ever she wanted for the
rest of her life. That was my gift.
Kerri: She's got a good son hasn't she.? (sincerely)
The audience claps in respect for Julian
Kerri: In terms of the new album.. the personal
aspect of it. what is it that you want people to know and understand.?
Jules: Well I don't know. I just
think music, especially- definitely with the style I write- is definitely
for reflecting upon life.. I think to a degree some of the work
provokes thought. y'know when I was either going through happy times
or bad times, there'd be songs that I would listen to , to get me
through those times.. and I think that's what it does for people.
It soothes their soul. And it's also, with the Photograph, and why
it's called 'Photograph Smile' is because y'know it's about times,
and places and experiences we all have in our lives. y'know when
you first fall in love for the first time, or out of love for the
first time there's something musically that you generally listen
to.. and the same with photographs. especially having the old photograph
of me at four or five years old. it was a time stamp this album,
for me to show not only to myself but to others where I had come
from and I'm still here! and I'm still surviving!.. and that was
very important for me, to make that statement for myself- more than
Kerri: It has really really been a pleasure having
a chat to you this afternoon.
Jules: Thank you very much!
Kerri: I'm so glad that you could give us some time.
I want to tell everyone by the way, you are playing live in Sydney
and Melbourne. there's some dates-- we'll give you a second to glance
at those. (info shown on screen as below- )
*Monday 26th October The Metro, Sydney*
*Wednesday 28th October The Mercury Lounge, Melbourne*
People will love it.. I love.. and I also love the video clip.. I
have gotta say that is such a good clip.. such a good song.
Jules: Thank you!
. the album is called 'Photograph Smile' and we do thank, indeed