Julian Lennon the Secret Value of Daydreaming

The US Interview

by Elizabeth Kaye
US Magazine June 2, 1986


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What kind of things do you do when you go on a date?

Well, there was a girl who I liked very much, and I said, "Do you want to go out to dinner? At this very exclusive, different restaurant? She said yes. I said, "Do you like turkey?" She said yes. I said, "Oh, that's good. Come over to the hotel, and then we'll go."

So I have this friend, and we set this thing up. I said, "How 'bout being a waiter for a couple of hours in your house?" 'Cause he's got a beautiful little house on one side of a mountain.

We drive right up into the middle of this mountain. And all this time, she's thinking, "Where the hell's this restaurant? Where are we going?" We come into the doorway, and I say, "Lennon, party of two," and then we go upstairs--and there's candles there, champagne open, some drinks on the side, soft music in the background, and a nice view of L.A. She sits down, and I pour the champagne. And on the table there are two turkey sandwiches. Which were the best turkey sandwiches in the world. I like that sort of weird surprise.

Since you're speaking of the unexpected, one thing you might not have thought would happen in your life is your reconciliation with Yoko Ono. How did it come about?

Well, I think the first couple of years after Dad died were hard work for both of us. We had a lot on our minds, a lot of confusion. But these days, she's cleared up in her head, I've cleared up in my head, and we just have a good time. It's just social; I avoid business or anything like that at all costs.

What do you mean by business?

Obviously, she still talks about Dad and what award he's getting, because he still gets peace awards or whatever. So I say, "Yeah, that's nice...uh, what's on TV?"

Do you relate to her more as a stepmother or as an equal?

Well, I don't feel like she's a stepmother. She's a friend.

Early on, just after she and your father were married, there was a car accident that must have been very traumatic. Do you remember it?

Dad and Yoko and me and Yoko's daughter, Kyoko, were driving in the car down one of those long and winding roads [laughs], and we went around the corner too fast. We went off the road and into a ditch. Everybody was unconscious except for me. They were all upside down in the car, and they were all bleeding, and I was the only one awake. I was trying to wake them up, and nothing was happening, so I didn't know what to do.

I crawled out of the car, and I sat on the road markers: these milestones that say, you know, thirty miles to Glasgow. I sat there, and by then I was crying, because there were no cars - it was one of those real open roads where nothing was there. There was nothing I could do. So I sat on the milestone crying and crying, and then finally the driver of a car saw me. And then I remember zooming up in the back of the ambulance to a hospital. The next thing I remember is waking up in my pajamas, on one of the room, and seeing Dad and Yoko on the other.

What's your relationship like with your stepbrother, Sean, these days?

It's getting okay. We still don't see that much of each other. I'm still looking forward to when he's a bit older. Let's hope he grows up to be as good-looking as me [laughs].

There is a perception of you as being willing to go along with things, in terms of your career, and not question enough.

Well, I do question things.

What would you refuse to do?

Anything too involved with Dad or Dad's name. I respect Dad and everything else, but I just want to move away from picking up awards for him or doing this or that. I've got my own stuff.

What kind of person do you see yourself being in, say, five years?

I might be more aggressive. Just harder-edged, you know? I'll still be very close to my friends, but I think I'll be more wary of outsiders.

Do you picture yourself being with someone and having a family? Do you picture yourself in music?

Of course I will be...[long pause] I might have a family, I don't know. I try not to look ahead. So I really don't know about five years from now. I might become very strange and start living on an island or something. You never know. I just want to be...see, now I'm starting to make so many nice friends...

And that's been a bigger absence in your life than anything else?

Yeah. I always moved around so much as a kid that there was never a constant companion or anything like that. And now I've just had the chance to...it's nice. I need those friends around me. I have to have them to talk to and be human. Because if there's nobody to talk to or turn to, I'd probably crack up. I really would.

And the music doesn't give you that sense of stability, of meaning?

No, not at all. Music is only what happens from relationships.