"Friday Night Videos"
Paul McCartney & Julian Lennon

NBC United States 16 November 1984

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Video clip of "No More Lonely Nights"

Paul

Paul: With John and I our relationship was fine up until the Beatles broke up. When the Beatles broke up there were a lot of business troubles there. That- It was like playing monopoly. And sometimes when you are playing monopoly, you are not too friendly. I used to get very involved in that game actually. And it was like that, but playing with real money. So for awhile, we did used to bitch at each other but in a way it was kind of friendly bitching. And once it got into the papers and once he'd read something that I said and such. It got a bit hairy there. And it wasn't very pleasant there for awhile. But I suppose that all the time I knew it was a part of John's character to come out with it. He was very up-front. If he thought of a thing he'd just say it. He wouldn't kind of measure it, he'd just say it. So if he was feeling a bit knocked at me for something he'd just go with it, whatever he said. Just to get back at me.

Video clip of "I Want to Hold Your Hand"

Paul: So I used to kind of think should I try and fight in public with him. Should I answer these questions and just kind of say 'Wait a minute. My music isn't like musak. How about that!'  - Well, because that was one of the things he said. But - I thought 'No! I really don't want to get not this big sort of public sling match.' It just didn't - it just would have been too painful really. For him and me. And I just didn't want to keep staring at the whole thing. So I choose to just sort of shut up and just take all that. And there was a lot of it. And it hurt you know. He knew it. We knew it. But it was - we were knocked at each other. It was - like I say - it was a rather bitter game of monopoly at the time.

Video clip of "Love Me Do"

Paul: Well I never got to straighten things out like I would have liked to have done. But what I have to take is my consolation. And I take anything I can get as consolation. And really the biggest consolation was that the last phone call we had together was very good. It was very warm. We talked about kids. He was talking about his cats and about his Aunt Mimi and stuff I could relate to. And we could be very friendly. And it was really very warm. And so I kind of realized that you know that even though we had been bitching in public and stuff, we still had an affection for each other. And I was pleased to know that. And, I know Yoko later rang me up and said 'Look you know he did love you.' And so you know, I say you grab anything you can get. I know he did. I know he came close to a - you know to love/hate. Any strong relationship has got that in it.. I think. It is a pity. It would be nice for everything to just be wonderful, smooth all the time. But it seems to be life isn't it.

Video clip of "Here Today"

Paul

Paul: Listen. I tell you. My own wife! I wasn't her favorite Beatle. I got used to it. John was her favorite. Terrific huh! (laughs) Yeah, but you know. Listen it is just life. It is crazy. But I say I have got my consolations. I know that it was alright really.

Clip of Julian performing "Too Late for Goodbyes"

Julian: I think of my dad as - like a wise, wise Uncle. Yeah. I mean - just from standing back you know. I mean from listening to all his songs and stuff and how he feels about the world etcetera. You know it's like a teacher. Well for me you know. It's lucky to have someone like that you know. And at least he shared it with the world as well which was a nice thing.

Video clip of "No More Lonely Nights"

No More Lonely Nights

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